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Are We Listening? Part II of “Sennsible significance” Commentary on Senn’s Guest Post

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This is Part II of my commentary on Stephen Senn’s guest post, Be Careful What You Wish For. In this follow-up, I take up two topics:

(1) A terminological point raised in the comments to Part I, and
(2) A broader concern about how a popular reform movement reinforces precisely the mistaken construal Senn warns against.

But first, a question—are we listening? Because what underlies what Senn is saying is subtle, and yet what’s at stake is quite important for today’s statistical controversies. It’s not just a matter of which of four common construals is most apt for the population effect we wish to have high power to detect.[1] As I hear Senn, he’s also flagging a misunderstanding that allows some statistical reformers to (wrongly) dictate what statistical significance testers “wish” for in the first place. Continue reading

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“Sennsible significance” Commentary on Senn’s Guest Post (Part I)

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Have the points in Stephen Senn’s guest post fully come across?  Responding to comments from diverse directions has given Senn a lot of work, for which I’m very grateful. But I say we should not leave off the topic just yet. I don’t think the core of Senn’s argument has gotten the attention it deserves. So, we’re not done yet.[0]

I will write my commentary in two parts, so please return for Part II. In Part I, I’ll attempt to give an overarching version of Senn’s warning (“Be careful what you wish for”) and  his main recommendation. He will tell me if he disagrees. All quotes are from his post. In Senn’s opening paragraph:

…Even if a hypothesis is rejected and the effect is assumed genuine, it does not mean it is important…many a distinguished commentator on clinical trials has confused the difference you would be happy to find with the difference you would not like to miss. The former is smaller than the latter. For reasons I have explained in this blog [reblogged here], you should use the latter for determining the sample size as part of a conventional power calculation.

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Stephen Senn (guest post): “Relevant significance? Be careful what you wish for”

 

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Stephen Senn

Consultant Statistician
Edinburgh

Relevant significance?

Be careful what you wish for

Despised and Rejected

Scarcely a good word can be had for statistical significance these days. We are admonished (as if we did not know) that just because a null hypothesis has been ‘rejected’ by some statistical test, it does not mean it is not true and thus it does not follow that significance implies a genuine effect of treatment. Continue reading

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