Some have asked me why I haven’t blogged on the recent follow-up to the ASA Statement on P-Values and Statistical Significance (Wasserstein and Lazar 2016)–hereafter, ASA I. They’re referring to the editorial by Wasserstein, R., Schirm, A. and Lazar, N. (2019)–hereafter, ASA II(note)–opening a special on-line issue of over 40 contributions responding to the call to describe “a world beyond P < 0.05”.[1] Am I falling down on the job? Not really. All of the issues are thoroughly visited in my Statistical Inference as Severe Testing: How to Get Beyond the Statistics Wars, SIST (2018, CUP). I invite interested readers to join me on the statistical cruise therein.[2] As the ASA II(note) authors observe: “At times in this editorial and the papers you’ll hear deep dissonance, the echoes of ‘statistics wars’ still simmering today (Mayo 2018)”. True, and reluctance to reopen old wounds has only allowed them to fester. However, I will admit, that when new attempts at reforms are put forward, a philosopher of science who has written on the statistics wars ought to weigh in on the specific prescriptions/proscriptions, especially when a jumble of fuzzy conceptual issues are interwoven through a cacophony of competing reforms. (My published comment on ASA I, “Don’t Throw Out the Error Control Baby With the Bad Statistics Bathwater” is here.) Continue reading
Monthly Archives: June 2019
“The 2019 ASA Guide to P-values and Statistical Significance: Don’t Say What You Don’t Mean” (Some Recommendations)(ii)
(Full) Excerpt. Excursion 5 Tour II: How Not to Corrupt Power (Power Taboos, Retro Power, and Shpower)
The concept of a test’s power is still being corrupted in the myriad ways discussed in 5.5, 5.6. I’m excerpting all of Tour II of Excursion 5, as I did with Tour I (of Statistical Inference as Severe Testing:How to Get Beyond the Statistics Wars 2018, CUP)*. Originally the two Tours comprised just one, but in finalizing corrections, I decided the two together was too long of a slog, and I split it up. Because it was done at the last minute, some of the terms in Tour II rely on their introductions in Tour I. Here’s how it starts:
5.5 Power Taboos, Retrospective Power, and Shpower
Let’s visit some of the more populous tribes who take issue with power – by which we mean ordinary power – at least its post-data uses. Power Peninsula is often avoided due to various “keep out” warnings and prohibitions, or researchers come during planning, never to return. Why do some people consider it a waste of time, if not totally taboo, to compute power once we know the data? A degree of blame must go to N-P, who emphasized the planning role of power, and only occasionally mentioned its use in determining what gets “confirmed” post-data. After all, it’s good to plan how large a boat we need for a philosophical excursion to the Lands of Overlapping Statistical Tribes, but once we’ve made it, it doesn’t matter that the boat was rather small. Or so the critic of post-data power avers. A crucial disanalogy is that with statistics, we don’t know that we’ve “made it there,” when we arrive at a statistically significant result. The statistical significance alarm goes off, but you are not able to see the underlying discrepancy that generated the alarm you hear. The problem is to make the leap from the perceived alarm to an aspect of a process, deep below the visible ocean, responsible for its having been triggered. Then it is of considerable relevance to exploit information on the capability of your test procedure to result in alarms going off (perhaps with different decibels of loudness), due to varying values of the parameter of interest. There are also objections to power analysis with insignificant results. Continue reading
Don’t let the tail wag the dog by being overly influenced by flawed statistical inferences
An article [i],“There is Still a Place for Significance Testing in Clinical Trials,” appearing recently in Clinical Trials, while very short, effectively responds to recent efforts to stop error statistical testing [ii]. We need more of this. Much more. The emphasis in this excerpt is mine:
Much hand-wringing has been stimulated by the reflection that reports of clinical studies often misinterpret and misrepresent the findings of the statistical analyses. Recent proposals to address these concerns have included abandoning p-values and much of the traditional classical approach to statistical inference, or dropping the concept of statistical significance while still allowing some place for p-values. How should we in the clinical trials community respond to these concerns? Responses may vary from bemusement, pity for our colleagues working in the wilderness outside the relatively protected environment of clinical trials, to unease about the implications for those of us engaged in clinical trials….
However, we should not be shy about asserting the unique role that clinical trials play in scientific research. A clinical trial is a much safer context within which to carry out a statistical test than most other settings. Properly designed and executed clinical trials have opportunities and safeguards that other types of research do not typically possess, such as protocolisation of study design; scientific review prior to commencement; prospective data collection; trial registration; specification of outcomes of interest including, importantly, a primary outcome; and others. For randomised trials, there is even more protection of scientific validity provided by the randomisation of the interventions being compared. It would be a mistake to allow the tail to wag the dog by being overly influenced by flawed statistical inferences that commonly occur in less carefully planned settings….
Furthermore, the research question addressed by clinical trials (comparing alternative strategies) fits well with such an approach and the corresponding decision-making settings (e.g. regulatory agencies, data and safety monitoring committees and clinical guideline bodies) are often ones within which statistical experts are available to guide interpretation. The carefully designed clinical trial based on a traditional statistical testing framework has served as the benchmark for many decades. It enjoys broad support in both the academic and policy communities. There is no competing paradigm that has to date achieved such broad support. The proposals for abandoning p-values altogether often suggest adopting the exclusive use of Bayesian methods. For these proposals to be convincing, it is essential their presumed superior attributes be demonstrated without sacrificing the clear merits of the traditional framework. Many of us have dabbled with Bayesian approaches and find them to be useful for certain aspects of clinical trial design and analysis, but still tend to default to the conventional approach notwithstanding its limitations. While attractive in principle, the reality of regularly using Bayesian approaches on important clinical trials has been substantially less appealing – hence their lack of widespread uptake.
The issues that have led to the criticisms of conventional statistical testing are of much greater concern where statistical inferences are derived from observational data. … Even when the study is appropriately designed, there is also a common converse misinterpretation of statistical tests whereby the investigator incorrectly infers and reports that a non-significant finding conclusively demonstrates no effect. However, it is important to recognise that an appropriately designed and powered clinical trial enables the investigators to potentially conclude there is ‘no meaningful effect’ for the principal analysis.[iii] More generally, these problems are largely due to the fact that many individuals who perform statistical analyses are not sufficiently trained in statistics. It is naive to suggest that banning statistical testing and replacing it with greater use of confidence intervals, or Bayesian methods, or whatever, will resolve any of these widespread interpretive problems. Even the more modest proposal of dropping the concept of ‘statistical significance’ when conducting statistical tests could make things worse. By removing the prespecified significance level, typically 5%, interpretation could become completely arbitrary. It will also not stop data-dredging, selective reporting, or the numerous other ways in which data analytic strategies can result in grossly misleading conclusions.
These considerations notwithstanding, the field of clinical trials is in rapid evolution and it is entirely possible and appropriate that the statistical framework used for their evaluation must also change. However, such evolution should emerge from careful methodological research and open-minded, self-critical enquiry. We earnestly hope that Clinical Trials will continue to be seen as a natural academic home for exploration and debate about alternative statistical frameworks for making inferences from clinical trials. The Editors welcome articles that evaluate or debate the merits of such alternative paradigms along with the conventional one within the context of clinical trials. Especially welcome are exemplar trial articles and those which are illustrated using practical examples from clinical trials that permit a realistic evaluation of the strengths and weaknesses of the approach.
You can read the full article here.
We may reject, with reasonable severity, the supposition that promoting correctly interpreted statistical tests is the real goal of the most powerful leaders of the movement to Stop Statistical Tests. The goal is just to stop (error) statistical tests altogether.[iv] That today’s CI leaders advance this goal is especially unwarranted and self-defeating, in that confidence intervals are just inversions of N-P tests, and were developed at the same time by the same man (Neyman) who developed (with E. Pearson) the theory of error statistical tests. See this recent post.
Reader: I’ve placed on draft a number of posts while traveling in England over the past week, but haven’t had the chance to read them over, or find pictures for them. This will soon change, so stay tuned!
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[i] Jonathan A Cook, Dean A Fergusson, Ian Ford , Mithat Gonen, Jonathan Kimmelman, Edward L Korn and Colin B Begg (2019). “There is still a place for significance testing in clinical trials”, Clinical Trials 2019, Vol. 16(3) 223–224.
[ii] Perhaps we should call those driven to Stop Error Statistical Tests “Obsessed”. I thank Nathan Schachtman for sending me the article.
[iii] It’s disappointing how many critics of tests seem unaware of this simple power analysis point, and how it avoids egregious fallacies of non-rejection, or moderate P-value. It precisely follows simple significance test reasoning. The severity account that I favor gives a more custom-tailored approach that is sensitive to the actual outcome. (See, for example, Excursion 5 of Statistical Inference as Severe Testing: How to Get Beyond the Statistics Wars (2018, CUP).
[iv] Bayes factors, like other comparative measures, are not “tests”, and do not falsify (even statistically). They can only say one hypothesis or model is better than a selected other hypothesis or model, based on some^ selected criteria. They can both (all) be improbable, unlikely, or terribly tested. One can always add a “falsification rule”, but it must be shown that the resulting test avoids frequently passing/failing claims erroneously.
^The Anti-Testers would have to say “arbitrary criterion”, to be consistent with their considering any P-value “arbitrary”, and denying that a statistically significant difference, reaching any P-value, indicates a genuine difference from a reference hypothesis.




